Download: Loose Learners Episode 3
On the first Wednesday of May we broadcasted our third episode of ‘Loose Learners’. John Johnston is a primary school teacher in Scotland and Mariana Funes is a Psychologist teaching in higher education and we explore issues that we find interesting and that we feel affect those of us using the web for educational purposes in some way.
We run the live show the first Wednesday of each month. The next show is planned for June 7th 2017 at 8pm BST. We thank @Zeynep for the original take on our new tagline: ‘It the Internet Good or Bad for Education? Yes.’ We look beyond easy answers and do our best to look behind technological solutionism.
On today’s show: We brag!
Ben Grosser is an internet artist who has some very creative ways to use native internet art as critique. In his installation ‘You like my like of your like of my status’ he cleverly suggests that the dynamics of Twitter conversation is mostly based on flattery and no substance; much has been written about the implicit way in which algorithms connect us on the basis of homophily, much less on how to design platforms that break up the ‘like’ filter bubble and bring in heterophily too. Wendy Chun being a great exception to read up on this. Ben bypasses theory and long words and immerses us in a short video to give us a sense of what a social media life based on ‘like’ is like…’i like your like of my like of your like of my like of your like of my like of your like of my like of your like of my tweet’. The video is worth a watch and we play an excerpt of the soundtrack on the show. The installation is:
“ a sound and video installation. Each screen follows a progressive generative text pattern of increasingly “liking” each others’ “likes”. The text is spoken using a real-time speech synthesis engine, creating an immersive experience that constantly changes, shifting in time, pitch, and rhythm.”
Most of this episode meanders on the topic of Sharing, Bragging, Selling and Self Promoting; an article by Dean Shareski that ponders on the differences between sharing and selling. “When you share to be acknowledged or praised or get something in return it makes sharing something ugly.” Or does it? Is it okay to blend both and blur the lines? We explore these ideas and wonder if the sense of ‘ugly’ comes from the personal choices we make about the conversational strategies we use on Twitter. When these clash with people you do not know, we may see their behaviour as ‘ugly’ or vice versa.
We talk about the lack of context and the inherent difficulty this brings to interpret the intention behind the words we type. Shareski says: “Sharing in online spaces lack the context for many to break down. However, over time, you can tell whether someone is self-promoting or sharing. Even then, it’s a blurred line that often is a matter of interpretation.”
We discuss the basic notion from the article that
“Selling isn’t bad, I just don’t want to confuse people more than they already are. For me, it feels like a salesman in a bar who sits down under the pretense of a social conversation and then starts asking you if you have term or whole life insurance.”
Is this just personal preference? Or does Twitter have an implicit netiquette we unconsciously absorb and start to use in order to get that like or that follow? We meander around some other ideas raised by Shareski’s article:
- Maybe being thought a braggart is no longer the barrier it once was?
- Where do you stand on retweeting folk who say something nice about you?
- Do you tweet saying thanks?
- How often do you tweet a blog post?
- Do you think about popularity of tweets?
- Is Sealioning an issue for you? It can be about promotion (‘let me send you 10 blog posts I wrote on the subject’) or about genuine interest on the topic of the conversation (‘I have been thinking about this, can I join in?’)
An underlying idea we explore is whether ‘sharing’ is being redefined as ‘selling’ and if that matters. Intention seems relevant though hard to gage. We felt that academic sharing as professional development was not the same as selling ourselves as consultants or keynote stars, these two activities should be separate. Others may disagree.
We did not get to discuss Couldry but his ideas are relevant here. Couldry has a view that this redefining ‘social’ to be ‘what social media platforms allow’ is eroding the richness of what it means to be social in human terms. “Rationalizing a certain perspective on how we come to know the social, obscures our possibilities for imagining, describing and enacting the social otherwise. (Couldry, 2012)”
One of the comments on Shareski’s article illustrates the issues simply: “ Why am i sharing this? If the answer is: to get retweets, likes, acknowledgment, praise or money, perhaps you’re not sharing.” Perhaps there is a strategy implicit in this that says: Let’s call things what they are and not redefine words to make ourselves feel better! But this simplicity also obscures the psychological reality of motivated reasoning and how good we are at lying to ourselves!
The comment concludes: “The shift from sharing to selling has become so pronounced in #eduspaces over the last few years that it makes me really uncomfortable.”
We decided to continue with this this topic in the next episode as there is so much written about it and we have some interesting research for the June episode that will suggest you should get others to retweet for you in order to get more of those likes.
This episode also briefly mentions Mastodon and Micro Blog as alternatives to Twitter. Do these embed the same bragging dynamics? The same blurring of the line between selling and sharing? Just more words allowed? We continue the conversation in June and look forward to your likes on Twitter 😉 Enjoy this episode.
One thought on “Radio #EDUtalk 03-05-2017 Loose Learners Ep 3: We Brag!”
Thanks for the conversation. This is one of the benefits of blogging. My very sketchy thinking was made better by this discussion. You both raise some really critical points which clarified things greatly. Much appreciated.